精通摔拌

[间隙妖怪]

之前记得谈过的
就是在握持巨剑的情况下，用徒手来摔拌对方，以精通摔拌成功后能否用巨剑进行精通摔拌的额外攻击
原文如下
You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you
attempt to trip an opponent while you are unarmed. You also gain a
+4 bonus on your Strength check to trip your opponent.
If you trip an opponent in melee combat, you immediately get a
melee attack against that opponent as if you hadn’t used your attack
for the trip attempt. For example, at 11th level, Tordek gets three
attacks at bonuses of +11, +6, and +1. In the current round, he
attempts to trip his opponent. His first attempt fails (using up his
first attack). His second attempt succeeds, and he immediately
makes a melee attack against his opponent with

[逆神猪]

可以啊，因为徒手攻击不是用手打的，用脚拌用肩顶用屁股拱都是徒手攻击

[阿诺]

a melee attack against that opponent as if you hadn’t used your attack for the trip attempt

我认为这个as if 不光是攻击加值，还包括攻击方式（否则会说a melee attack using your attack bonus as if...）

所以当然可以徒手摔人后巨剑砍之

范例

　他心念电转：“我本要败在小师妹手里，哄得她欢喜。现下我却弹去了她长剑，那是故意在天下英雄之前削她面子，难道我竟以这等卑鄙手段，去报答小师妹待我的情义？”一瞥之间，只见那长剑正自半空中向下射落，当即身子一晃，叫道：“好恒山剑法！”似是竭力闪避，其实却是将身子往剑尖凑将过去，噗的一声响，长剑从他左肩后直插了进去。令狐冲向前一扑，长剑竟将他钉在地下。

[业问]

有这种事？不是只有武僧是这样吗？

可以啊，因为徒手攻击不是用手打的，用脚拌用肩顶用屁股拱都是徒手攻击

[逆神猪]

这个好像真不是

[星]

徒手攻击一向不限于手。。。

[vanguardq]

之前记得谈过的
就是在握持巨剑的情况下，用徒手来摔拌对方，以精通摔拌成功后能否用巨剑进行精通摔拌的额外攻击
原文如下
You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you
attempt to trip an opponent while you are unarmed. You also gain a
+4 bonus on your Strength check to trip your opponent.
If you trip an opponent in melee combat, you immediately get a
melee attack against that opponent as if you hadn’t used your attack
for the trip attempt. For example, at 11th level, Tordek gets three
attacks at bonuses of +11, +6, and +1. In the current round, he
attempts to trip his opponent. His first attempt fails (using up his
first attack). His second attempt succeeds, and he immediately
makes a melee attack against his opponent with

我能确认一下这个问题的结论到底是什么嘛？

这涉及到作为AO拌摔战士，有无必要备用一把双手巨剑。。。

[阿诺]

结论当然是可以徒手摔绊之后巨剑砍人，unarmed翻译成徒手本来就有误会，因为跟【手】上空不空根本没关系

又及：AO摔绊战士拿的都是长触及摔绊武器吧，既然AO不是你的回合，哪来的直觉动作换武器呢？

若你没修精通徒手攻击也没带铁手套，那么你的徒手攻击是没有触及范围的，所以敌人也就不会触发你的AO了；当你想用巨剑的触及范围AO时，便又不能摔绊了

[涅薇儿·德拉诺尔]

快拔换武器是自由动作

[阿诺]

You can perform one or more free actions while taking another action normally.

自由动作能否在非自己的回合进行，是不是核心规则的争议之处？要不怎么会搞出迅捷动作和直觉动作的定义来？