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关于alterself应该保留什么失去什么的问题
« 于: 2005-09-04, 周日 18:34:18 »
You lose extraordinary special attacks and qualities not derived from class levels.

Also as noted in Part One, extraordinary special attacks and qualities are assumed to be largely a function of your body. When you change your body with the alter self spell, you lose the special physical adaptations that make those extraordinary special attacks and qualities.

现在我有黑暗视觉,有对元素攻击的一点点抗力,我是个提夫林!
这些能力都是ex的吧?那么当我变身的时候就全失去了..

You do not gain any extraordinary special attacks or special qualities not noted above under physical qualities, such as darkvision, low-light vision, blindsense, blindsight, fast healing, regeneration, scent, and so forth.
You do not gain any supernatural special attacks, special qualities, or spell-like abilities of the new form. Your creature type and subtype (if any) remain the same regardless of your new form
我承认这里没看懂,如果ex,sp,su,所有这些都得不到了话,那么就算我变身的目标有黑暗视觉也得不到了吗?


我究竟可以得到什么?

You have the physical qualities of the assumed form

这个physical qualities 是否包括了黑暗视觉,或是箭鹰的 immunity to acid, electricity, and poison, resistance to cold 10 and fire 10

显然是包括了Hold Breath,不过这是以什么标准来衡量的呢?
人不是什么时候都能活得光明正大,本想抬头挺胸前进,却不知何时就会沾一身泥巴。

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关于alterself应该保留什么失去什么的问题
« 回帖 #1 于: 2005-09-04, 周日 20:17:11 »
是的,黑暗视觉、元素抗力等EX都会在变身后失去。

而变身无法获得任何SU和SP,至于可以获得的部分EX如下:

You have the physical qualities of the assumed form.

Physical qualities include natural size, mundane movement capabilities (such as burrowing, climbing, walking, swimming, and flight with wings. Physical qualities also include natural armor bonus, natural weapons (such as claws, bite, and so on), racial skill bonuses, racial bonus feats, and any gross physical qualities (presence or absence of wings, number of extremities, and so forth).

You do not gain any extraordinary special attacks or special qualities not noted above under physical qualities, such as darkvision, low-light vision, blindsense, blindsight, fast healing, regeneration, scent, and so forth.
(这两段话在Rules of the Game 和法术描述中都是一样的)

包括了体型、移动方式、天生护甲、天生武器、种族技能奖励、种族奖励专长及额外的翅膀胳膊等身体特征。除此以外的EX都得不到,因此黑暗视觉得不到,箭鹰的能量抗力自然也得不到。(关于毒、能量免疫是否获得,我持保留意见,详细见下面的回帖)

至于Hold Breath,在衡量时并不属于EX、SU和SP,而是“Natural Ability”,解释如下:

Natural Ability: This term is a catch-all for just about anything a creature can do (or characteristic that it has) that is not extraordinary, spell-like, or supernatural. Natural abilities include most speed ratings (some very high speeds are not "natural," see the section on the alter self spell), mode of breathing (lungs, gills), natural armor and weaponry, general appearance, body type, and the presence or absence of the five basic senses (sight, hearing, touch, taste, pain). When polymorphing, you generally lose your own natural abilities and gain those of your assumed form.
(这段话是在Rules of the Game 变形那几篇的Part One最后一段)

(注:以在下的理解,最后一段话说的是“基本的”五官感觉,例如有眼睛就能看、有舌头就能尝味道、有鳃就能水中呼吸之类,因此并不包括黑暗视力、盲感这类“特殊”的五官能力)
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« 回帖 #2 于: 2005-09-04, 周日 20:55:32 »

刚刚翻了翻Rules of the Game变形的第三篇,发现属于某几个Type和Subtype的immunity to XXXX居然属于Natural Ability,但根据Natural Ability的解释,我看不出来immunity(主要是元素、魔法免疫,而构装体免疫重击之类倒很好理解)为何属于Natural Ability,也找不到对于immunity这种能力的详细解释,也不能肯定那些不是从Type或Subtype获得的某些immunity是否也算Natural Ability 。。。

所以对此类能力的获得与否,我持保留意见。

 
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