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« 回帖 #10 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 00:16:05 »
那个……刚刚去看了一下faq里的spell部分关于polymorph的部分……里面似乎没有提到hp不变……当然也可能是我漏看了……具体在哪一条里?
 

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« 回帖 #11 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 00:31:16 »
这根据是最新的Rule of the Game。
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« 回帖 #12 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 09:08:39 »
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..............另外只要魔法武器和防具都能自动适应新形体.................

变大后便不能适应了.这条是引用的Alter Self,所以应该遵循Alter Self的规则.

而且FAQ上说了,Polymorph如果体形变Armor和Weapon不能变大小的话(核心里面是一定变不了的), 那么Armor和Weapon自动融入新形态.
如此.
Equipment

When a creature changes form, any equipment it has either remains worn or held by the new form (if that form is capable of wearing or holding the item), or melds into the new form and becomes nonfunctional. The DM must decide if the new form can handle the equipment. This is best decided on a case by case basis; however, Rules of the Game has previously suggested that one can divide creatures into types that have basically humanoid shapes and those that do not, as follows:

Humanoid Shapes    Nonhumanoid Shapes
Fey         Aberration
Giant         Animal
Humanoid        Dragon
Monstrous Humanoid    Elemental
Outsider         Ooze
Vermin  

In this case, "humanoid" refers to a creature that walks upright on two legs, and has two arms, a head, and a torso. A humanoid might have a few extra limbs, such as an extra pair of arms, a pair of wings or a tail (or perhaps wings and a tail). The suggestions presented here are intended as general guidelines only. For example, most outsiders have generally humanoid bodies, but not all of them do. Likewise, some animals have bodies that fit the humanoid plan.

As a rule of thumb, a change from a form that has a humanoid shape to another form that also has a humanoid shape leaves all equipment in place and functioning. The creature's equipment changes to match the assumed form. It becomes the appropriate size for the assumed form and it fits the assumed form at least as well as it fit the original form. The being can change minor details in its equipment, such as color, surface texture, and decoration.

When a subject changes from a form with a humanoid shape to a form with a nonhumanoid shape (or vice versa) any equipment that can't be worn by the new form falls off at the subject's feet. (The druid's wildshape ability provides an exception: all equipment is subsumed into the new form and becomes nonfunctional while the druid remains in the assumed form.) Items the subject could conceivably wear in an assumed form remain functional. For example, most items worn on the body, such as armor, cloaks, boots, and most other items of clothing made for a humanoid body won't fit on a nonhumanoid body. Some items can fit on just about any kind of body. For example, a ring fits nearly any form that has digits of some kind (the limit of two rings applies no matter how many hands or similar appendages a creature has). Likewise, a necklace fits on just about any form that has a neck.

原文如此。。。虫类那个估计是其拉虫人。。。
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« 回帖 #13 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 09:23:18 »
remains worn or held by the new form (if that form is capable of wearing or holding the item)……

我们说的是体型,你说的是种类……其实这两者没有矛盾。
我们在说“装备不能变大一个等级的”而你在强调“类人怪物精类等等是可以穿装备的”……实际上我也知道可以……因为这些生物其实包括在变形术本来解释的范畴里,也就是说that form is capable of wearing or holding the item的这种生物……
5月份的FAQ很清楚地阐述了护甲和武器的内容,实际上就是你上面贴出的那段FAQ的后面。
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« 回帖 #14 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 12:41:09 »
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这根据是最新的Rule of the Game。
哥哥...最新的Rule of the Game全部说的是Alternate Form而不是Polymorph................

另外关于Weapon和Armor的问题花盆君已经解释得很清楚了................
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« 回帖 #15 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 12:57:41 »
恩,关于HP是否随CON变化的问题...
因为Polymorph和Alter Self是同一系列的法术,因此Polymorph应该是继承了Alter Self的特性,而Alter Self里面说了HP不变,因此Polymorph以后HP应该也不会随CON变.

这个逻辑被废柴巫师会用来解释Wildshape后HP不随CON变的原理(因为Wildshape是基于Alternate Form,而Alternate Form HP不随CON变),因此可以认为也能用来解释Polymorph后HP的问题.
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« 回帖 #16 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 14:04:24 »
刚刚把polymorphing part1-4和polymorphing revisited1-4都看了(写这么多这些家伙不觉得累么- -)发觉之间其实没什么变化,不知道为什么要写两遍- -

polymorphing和alternate form本身的规则都没有什么大变化,变的就是德鲁伊的wild shape现在的效果是alternate form 而不是polymorphing了- -绕来绕去绕得我头晕脑胀的……

polymorphing之之后hp是跟随新的体制算的:
The subject retains its own mind, but its body is transformed into a semblance of the assumed form. Unlike previous versions of the D&D game, the subject's hit points change according to his new Constitution score. The subject's Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores revert to normal when resuming its normal form, which may prompt another change in hit points.
这正好是polymorphing和alternate form 之间的几个不同之一。

不过这几个能力回溯来回溯去的真是麻烦- -
 

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« 回帖 #17 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 14:15:50 »
貌似前面那篇文章已经过时了。

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« 回帖 #18 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 14:19:03 »
但是后面那篇文章的开头就说polymorphing本身没有变化,并且给出了前面那篇文章作为解释……
 

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« 回帖 #19 于: 2006-06-22, 周四 14:26:34 »
The subject retains its own mind, but its body is transformed into a semblance of the assumed form. Unlike previous versions of the D&D game, the subject's hit points change according to his new Constitution score. The subject's Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores revert to normal when resuming its normal form, which may prompt another change in hit points.

这一段...是哪里的来着......?(难道看漏了.....)

另外不是过时,Polymorph Revisited讲的是Alternate Form...跟Polymorph一点关系都没有..........
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