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[3R]两个关于弓箭的问题
« 于: 2010-11-09, 周二 19:07:46 »
首先看一下这个物品
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Energy Bow

Price: 22,600 gp
Body Slot: — (held)
Caster Level: 6th
Aura: Moderate; (DC 18) evocation
Activation: See below
Weight: 3 lb.

Simply drawing your fingers in the air near this finely crafted bow causes it to be strung with an arrow of glimmering energy.

Hank’s energy bow acts as a +2 composite longbow that accommodates a user of any Strength. Although unstrung, it fires arrows of pure magical force that deal 2d6 points of damage. As they are force effects, the arrows do not suffer a miss chance when used against incorporeal creatures.The bow can be used to fire normal or magic arrows, but in such cases the bow does not confer its damage due to force.When drawn, the energy bow sheds light like a torch.

In addition, Hank can use the bow to make power shots.To do so, before making attack rolls, choose a number to subtract from your attack rolls up to Hank’s base attack and add this same number to the damage dealt by the bow with any attack that hits. The penalty on attack rolls and bonus on damage rolls last until Hank’s next turn.

Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, magic missile.
Cost to Create: 11,500 gp, 888 XP, 23 days.
这是wotc官网很久以前为了cosplay(误)做的一个玩意。抛开它能否在战役里应用不说,我想问:它射的pure magic force箭会不会被风力阻挡?

然后是第二个问题,先看这个武器属性
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FORCE
Price: +2 bonus
Property: Projectile weapon
Caster Level: 9th
Aura: Moderate; (DC 19) evocation
Activation: —
This weapon appears translucent, as though its
substance is not entirely of this world.
A projectile weapon with the force property
turns ammunition shot from it into a
force attack. These force projectiles automatically
overcome damage reduction and
suffer no miss chance against incorporeal
targets, but they don’t damage creatures
immune to force effects. Ammunition shot
from a force weapon deals the same amount
of damage as normal ammunition.
Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and
Armor, magic missile.
Cost to Create: Varies.
这是出自MIC的一个挺好用的武器附魔,同样的问题:一把force弓射出的箭会不会被风力阻挡?
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Re: [3R]两个关于弓箭的问题
« 回帖 #1 于: 2010-11-09, 周二 21:00:28 »
严格按照字面意思,1可以无视风墙,2不行。


但是碰到重雾都没跑……
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Re: [3R]两个关于弓箭的问题
« 回帖 #2 于: 2010-11-09, 周二 21:16:33 »
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Arrows and bolts are deflected upward and miss, while any other normal ranged weapon passing through the wall has a 30% miss chance. (A giant-thrown boulder, a siege engine projectile, and other massive ranged weapons are not affected.)

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This spell functions like fog cloud, but in addition to obscuring sight, the solid fog is so thick that any creature attempting to move through it progresses at a speed of 5 feet, regardless of its normal speed, and it takes a –2 penalty on all melee attack and melee damage rolls. The vapors prevent effective ranged weapon attacks (except for magic rays and the like).

从这里看来,energy  bow有两种功效,第一是射出力场能量箭,第二是射出普通的箭矢。arrow of pure magic force到底算不算arrow and bolts还可以讨论,不过由于适用于普通的远程武器规则,因此即使DM开恩判定可以穿透风墙,也要承受30%失手。

而force special quality只是能够附加在武器上的一个特殊属性,并没有能够使箭矢变成不是箭矢的效果,magic arrow当然也还是arrow and bolts,所以还是会被挡住。

而Solid Fog的描述就更明确了,以上的所有东西都穿不过去……



当然,按照合理性原则,这两个东西都是把箭矢变成没有实体的力场效果,所以可以判定都能穿过去也没问题。……force arrow由于在射出去的瞬间之前很明显都是实体箭,还是可能被挡就是了。
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Re: [3R]两个关于弓箭的问题
« 回帖 #3 于: 2010-11-10, 周三 09:02:44 »
重雾没法射还是可以忍的,毕竟没视线本来也射不中
其实我只是要讨论这两种force arrow会不会被风挡住。从描述看,风能挡住一束力场貌似不可思议;但是从另一个角度看,这玩意依然会按普通远程攻击规则受到距离减值之类的,又不好说到底是不是抛射物...

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Re: [3R]两个关于弓箭的问题
« 回帖 #4 于: 2010-11-10, 周三 15:46:19 »
energy bow的第一种用途在判定上存在模糊性。首先,这东西在很多地方和普通的箭矢一样;其次,这东西明确说了是pure magic force,伤害骰子与普通的长弓不同,并且是固定数值(你肯定不会认为吹大以后就能3d6了吧……)的能量伤害。某认为,这东西在几乎所有combo中都可能有被看作魔法物品的spell-like effect或者普通的武器攻击的可能性以及可行性——也就是说,除了物品已经说明的部分,在其他任何情况下都没个准话。

第二个……某觉得就算被吹走了也不奇怪吧,你可以说是在射中前的一瞬间才变成Magic Force的……
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