Monk Discussion

[poorlunch]

睡前。
帖子看完了没看到有人评论monk……

于是咱啥也不说……

[Sheepy]

Monk 還算不錯, 我和布布都在用. PsiP 出了之後更加好. 

[Alanryan]

Monk我觉得是灵能里最强的职业，也是striker中数一数二的

[aland]

Monk我觉得是灵能里最强的职业，也是striker中数一数二的

King of level 6:
43.32 DPR (CA, Ch, Mount) Longtooth Shifter Brutal Rogue (6th) by tl (&)
42.4 DPR(CA, Ch) Human Brutal Charging Rogue(6th), by RX-75(&)
42.45 DPR (Ch, Mount) Longtooth Shifter Ranger (6th), by Ravenous187(5@)
41.33 DPR (Ch, Mount) Longtooth Shifter Avenger (6th), by tl(&)
40.2 DPR (Ch, CA) Longtooth Shifter Brutal Rogue (6th), by tl(&)
40 DPR(CA) Bugbear Rogue|Swordmage (6th), by tl(&)
38.97 DPR (Ch, Mount) Dragonborn Warlock (6th), by tl (&)
36.6 DPR(CA, Ch) Longtooth Shifter Ranger (6th), by tl(&)
34.64 DPR (Ch) Longtooth Shifter Charging Avenger (6th) by tl (5@&)
34.15 DPR (Ch) Dragonborn Melee Warlock (6th) by tl (&)
html_removed 34 DPR One Stroke to Kill Them All(30th)
33.28 DPR Githzerai Ranger|Avenger Charger (6th), by Nelphine (Ch56@&)
32.20 DPR(Ch) Longtooth Shifter Charger (6th), by The1Darklord(&)
30 DPR(Ch) Radiant Sorcadin(6th), by Borg285(&)
30 DPR(CA) Bugbear Brutal Rogue (6th), by tl (@&)
29.28 DPR (32.76 if enemy bloodied) Wizard|warlock(Hellfire Rebuke)(6th), by IronSky(&)
12.78(3x3) DPR(15.1 if enemy bloodied) Wizard|warlock(Scorching Burst)(6th), by IronSky(&)
29.25 DPR(CA) Githzerai Rogue (Brutal Scoundrel) (6th), by Reg06 and Mengu74 (@&)
29.04 DPR(Ch) Githzerai Avenger Charger (6th), by The1Darklord(&)
26.79 DPR Striker of Pelor(6th), by Stryx(&)
25.93 DPR Longtooth Shifter Ranger|Fighter (6th), by Mengu74 (6,8;@&)
23.16 DPR Dragonborn Warlock (6th) by tl
17.6 DPR Stormwarden(6th), by LordDuskBlade (6&)
17.1 DPR (3x3) Halfling Sorcerer|Rogue (6), by Mengu74 (8@&)

King of level 1:
20.85 DPR(unorthodox) Human Assault Swordmage|Warlock(1st), by Kylian
20.7 DPR(CA) Bugbear Rogue|Swordmage (1st), by tl()
20.345 DPR (CA) Gnoll Rogue|Swordmage(1st), by borg285 and tl (Level 3 item)
19.95 DPR (CA) Bugbear Brutal Rogue (1st) by tl
19.825 DPR (3x3) Suicide Bomber (1st), by Paultimatum
17.45 DPR Wizard|warlock(Hellfire Rebuke)(1st), by IronSky
15.6(Riposte)-17(Ch) DPR Dark Paladin(1st), by ethaenn1(@)
15.81 DPR Githzerai Assassin(1st), by Intro
15.43 DPR - 16.5 DPR (Ch) Dragonborn Melee Warlock (1st) by tl
15.1 DPR(50%Ch) Eldritch Defender(1st), by Stryx(@)
14.83 DPR Palavenger (1st), by Elder Basilisk
14.6 DPR Essentials dwarf(1st), by KungFuJoe()
14 DPR Human Archer Ranger (1st), by Mengu74
13.9 DPR Bugbear Ranger|Tempest Fighter(1st), by tl(@)
13.85 DPR Goliath Fighter(1st), by ElricEN
13 DPR(mark) + 7 DPR(3x3,non-mark) Radiant Sorcadin(1st), by Borg285
12.4 DPR Half-Orc Slayer(1st), by mellored
12.23 DPR Battlefield_Archer(1st), by LordDuskBlade
10.05 DPR Palavenger (1st), by Elder Basilisk [nAC=2, nfort=1, nref=-4, nwill=-2]
10.12 DPR Stormwarden(1st), by LordDuskBlade (6)
 6.13 DPR Wolfpack Guradian(1st), by LordDuskBlade()

Heroic的DPR排行, 和尚在哪裡? P和E我依舊沒看見和尚入圍, 神棍奧棍武棍依舊名列前茅, 甚至還有法師排在前面. 和尚?一個都沒有.

覺得哪個Striker強的可以算算裡面有多少神棍奧棍武棍, 又有多少靈棍和Primal.

覺得4E平衡的同樣請比較一下自己的DPR和上表的DPR, 還有表內最低和最高的DPR. 我說一個好Build能頂2,3個不是沒有根據的. 更何況這還是"表單內"優化過的比較.

Too simple, sometimes naive.

[aland]

是不是Striker不要緊, DPR比Roll好說話. 你看裡面還有法師和戰鎖, 位置都不低.
另外6級一拳40的Avenger和一拳<17的和尚, 就算和尚防禦有那麼1, 2點跟Avenger一比依舊要嘆氣不是.
特別是當隊伍有個優秀Leader的時候, 比如薩滿/政委, 一回合切掉一只雜兵不是問題. 如果是和尚大概要車2,3回合,多出來的1,2回合足夠那些雜兵各種狀態At will了, 還是AOE.

[Alanryan]

6级一拳40的avenger不是还写着要ch和mount吗……而且和尚群轰还多呢，一次打3个和一次打1个是不同的

[aland]

就我跑到現在的經歷, Burst 1能打到2個的情況都很少.
一次打3個不如一次打1掉一個.

[桑特]

他们的Dpr是怎么算的？假设一战几轮还是给个固定血靶？

[aland]

Damage*Hit Rate 防禦按新MM的算. 一般都算的非nova.
算了Nova大概能solo 30了...

[AlbertNi]

就我跑到目前的经历, 还能一次攻击骰(不是一次攻击)且所有伤害骰子取最低一回合秒掉提亚马特呢...
但实际用起来又不是那么一回事...

所谓滥强, 其实很多时候只是看起来比较美而已...