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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: aland 于 2007-04-25, 周三 13:56:13
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Can a spellcaster counterspell a magical trap?
Yes, but only if 1) the magical trap duplicates a spell and 2)
he has readied the counterspell action to do so.
For example, a mere 1st-level wizard could counterspell
one of the burning hands traps detailed in the DMG, as long as
she had readied a counterspell action to do so. However, even a
20th-level wizard couldn’t counterspell a trap that simply
created a burst of fire without actually duplicating a specific
spell.
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你跟本不知道陷阱放什么法术,怎么反制?
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全能的dispel吧
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你跟本不知道陷阱放什么法术,怎么反制?
应该可以用预言系法术侦测吧~比如Analyze Dweomer?
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Dispel系列啊,或者没被触发但是认出来了...
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反制施法者施法的时候,对方放法术之前也不知道对方放什么法术哑……只要辨识出来就可以反制。
同样预先不知道陷阱里面是什么法术,只要辨识出来一样可以反制嘛……
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我一直认为要听到声音或者看到手势才能辨识……
好吧,Dispel我就没想到……
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Yes, but only if 1) the magical trap duplicates a spell and 2)
he has readied the counterspell action to do so.
貌似大多数人中陷阱之前都不会做“准备动作:反制法术”吧…… :em005
如果真的发现了陷阱……还要去踩……实在是…… :em008
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要反制必须先知道需要反制的法术是什么(用dispel除外)。
反制普通施法者施法时,可以通过观察对方的语音构件和肢体构件判断法术。对陷阱的时候,压根就没这俩构件,所以想临时spellcraft是不可能的。
所以要反制,一般得由小贼发现陷阱,并且辨认出陷阱的准确效果。然而如果连准确效果都认出来了,拆掉它一般而言也不是什么大麻烦……
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貌似不对~~~~~~~因为法术辨识可以通过魔法效果辨认~~~
此时dc计算为20+法术等级~~~
但是我无法判断可否临时specllcraft
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要反制必须先知道需要反制的法术是什么(用dispel除外)。
反制普通施法者施法时,可以通过观察对方的语音构件和肢体构件判断法术。对陷阱的时候,压根就没这俩构件,所以想临时spellcraft是不可能的。
所以要反制,一般得由小贼发现陷阱,并且辨认出陷阱的准确效果。然而如果连准确效果都认出来了,拆掉它一般而言也不是什么大麻烦……
如果按照這個邏輯?砼袛...
一個超魔定發+默發的法術是無法?恼Z言或姿勢的要素?砼袛嗟
然而事?上以一般規則而言反制一個超魔法術?K不會比反制一般的法術?淼睦щy,而且即使是一個昇階+定發+默發+瞬發的法術,你依然可以用一般正常的同名法術?矸粗...
所以以辨識法術?硎┱沟姆ㄐg應該與語言或姿勢無關,不過如果我沒記錯了話在關於法術與?法術的部分有提到,?法術無法用一般同名法術或抵銷法術的方式反制,但是依然可被解除魔法給解除...
所以無論如何,如果一個有直覺閃避的?K點選專長「瞬間反制法術」的施法者,應該至少能以解除魔法的方式拆掉被觸發的魔法陷阱
瞬間反制法術 Reactive Counterspell[一般專長]
你已經把反制敵人的法術當作一種本能了.
先決條件:精通反制法術,精通先攻.
效果:每輪一次,你能反制敵人施法者的法術哪怕那?K不是你的行動回合.這次反制行動將會取代你下一回合的行動.你不能在措手不及的狀態中使用這項專長.
普通:沒有這個專長,你每回合必須進行準備動作?K且希望反制法術能起效果.
《費?玩家指南》摘自本版翻譯專區
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一個超魔定發+默發的法術是無法?恼Z言或姿勢的要素?砼袛嗟
然而事?上以一般規則而言反制一個超魔法術?K不會比反制一般的法術?淼睦щy,而且即使是一個昇階+定發+默發+瞬發的法術,你依然可以用一般正常的同名法術?矸粗...
在反制这个问题上,当然超魔没有特殊优势,但在辨识法术这个问题上,默,定是无法被鉴别的,当然全能的dispel除外
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然而事?上以一般規則而言反制一個超魔法術?K不會比反制一般的法術?淼睦щy,而且即使是一個昇階+定發+默發+瞬發的法術,你依然可以用一般正常的同名法術?矸粗...
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050913a (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20050913a)
In general, it's pretty easy to notice a spell's somatic, verbal, or material components as the caster uses them. When in doubt, however, the DM can call for a DC 5 Spot or Listen check (as appropriate) to note the component. Remember to apply check penalties for distance or other conditions as noted in the skill descriptions.
The rules don't come right out and say so, but since you must see a somatic (or material) component or hear a verbal component to identify any spell as it is being cast, you cannot identify a spell that doesn't have any verbal, somatic, or material components. An example of this is a silent and stilled spell that doesn't have a material component. This makes such spells difficult to counter (but see the next section).
The rules don't specifically say so, but you need to see or touch the other spellcaster to counter a spell (because the other spellcaster is your counterspell's target). You also need line of effect to the other spellcaster and the other spellcaster must be within range for the spell you're using as a counterspell. If your line of effect is blocked or you're out of range, your counterspell's magical energy cannot reach the other spellcaster and negate that character's spell. This means you cannot use a spell with a personal range as a counterspell (because the spell's range is limited to your person) under most circumstances. You still can counter another character's personal range spell, however, by using a dispel magic or greater dispel magic spell as a counterspell, or by taking advantage of the Improved Counterspell feat and using a spell with sufficient range to reach your opponent.
呃...总地说来定默免材的法术不好反(或者说一般反不了),除非是Dispel系列...