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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: sleepinglord 于 2011-03-22, 周二 10:28:16
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1.若擅长中甲但不擅长重甲，能否穿秘银全身甲不受惩罚？
2.秘银全身甲能否用以下专长？
重甲优化（通用）HEAVY ARMOR OPTIMIZATION
你在如何使用重甲方面进行了更多的训练，并且学会了如何更好的发挥它们的优势。
前提条件：擅长重甲，基础攻击加值+4。
效果：当你穿着重甲时，防具检定减值减少１，盔甲奖励增加1。
特殊：战士可以选择本专长作为其战士奖励专长。
我觉得1是N，2是Y（原因是其前提条件中有擅长重甲）
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我的理解:
1. 需要重甲熟練, 就熟練而言穿的依然是全身甲. 官方立場是算中甲, 中甲熟練夠了.
2. 不適用, 就盔甲重量而言算中甲.
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实际上，这要看你的DM怎么判
我也赞成咩姐姐的看法，不过相对官方一点的说法在这里
Is a character proficient with light armor, such as a rogue, considered to be proficient with mithral breastplate?
What about a character proficient with medium armor, such as a barbarian—is he considered proficient with
mithral full plate armor?
The description of mithral on page 284 of the DMG is less precise than it could be in defining how it interacts with armor
proficiency rules. The simplest answer—and the one that the Sage expects most players and DMs use—is that mithral armor is treated as one category lighter for all purposes, including proficiency. This isn’t exactly what the DMG says, but it’s a reasonable interpretation of the intent of the rule (and it’s supported by a number of precedents, including the
descriptions of various specific mithral armors described on page 220 of the DMG and a variety of NPC stat blocks).
Thus, a ranger or rogue could wear a mithral breastplate without suffering a nonproficiency penalty (since it’s treated as
light armor), and each could use any ability dependent on wearing light or no armor (such as evasion or the ranger’s
combat style). A barbarian could wear mithral full plate armor without suffering a nonproficiency penalty (since it’s treated as medium armor), and he could use any ability dependent on wearing medium or lighter armor (such as fast movement).
The same would be true of any other special material that uses the same or similar language as mithral (such as darkleaf,
on page 120 of the ECS).
另外还有一点是秘银重盾永远是重盾，这个大家理解还是一样的...
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我个人认为第二个专长可以适用。
我认为重型中型的分类还是就款式而言的
规则上还是某某某几类盔甲属于重型，而不是重量某某磅以上算重型
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为啥我的感觉是第一个Y第二个N呢
秘银全身甲的type是中甲，凭什么能用重甲专长，又为什么不能享受中甲擅长？
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如果用三樓的官方解釋的話, 那麼樓上正解, 秘銀全身甲在所有方面都視作中甲, 包括熟練和專長, 於是...
1. 可以穿
2. 不適用
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但是，秘银全身甲的穿戴依旧是如同全身甲一般必须别人帮助不然就只能紧急穿戴吧？