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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: 午夜牛郎 于 2009-11-12, 周四 17:44:23
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瑟芬人的种族特性中有一条：
+1 racial bonus on saving throws against powers, spells, and spell-like effects. Xephs have an innate resistance to psionics and magic.
直接翻译的话就是：在对抗异能，法术以及类法术效果时豁免获得+1种族加值，瑟芬人对于魔法和灵能拥有与生俱来的抵抗力。
我想问的就是这个所谓的“异能”（powers）包不包括类灵能能力，还是说只包括灵能？个人的理解是包括。
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类灵能能力也属于类法术能力的一种。
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口胡....psi-like和spell-like是对等的分类...
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視乎有沒有使用靈能<->魔法互通的可選規則. 除非另行聲明, 否則一般視作互通處理. 在這前提下, 類靈能和類法的確就規則而言是大致相同的.
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虽说二者规则几乎完全一样，但是即使在psionic -spell transparency规则里，也木有将这两个视为同样的类型...
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灵抗是没法当法抗用的我记得有专门的说明……在feat栏。
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我記得除特別註明外靈抗和法抗是相同作用的? 類靈和類魔倒是可能分開. 汗, 還是得翻書...
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicP...dMagicalEffects (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm#combiningPsionicAndMagicalEffects)
The default rule for the interaction of psionics and magic is simple: Powers interact with spells and spells interact with powers in the same way a spell or normal spell-like ability interacts with another spell or spell-like ability. This is known as psionics-magic transparency.
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Spells, spell-like abilities, and magic items that could potentially affect psionics do affect psionics.
Spell resistance is effective against powers, using the same mechanics. Likewise, power resistance is effective against spells, using the same mechanics as spell resistance. If a creature has one kind of resistance, it is assumed to have the other.
All spells that dispel magic have equal effect against powers of the same level using the same mechanics, and vice versa.
The spell detect magic detects powers, their number, and their strength and location within 3 rounds (though a Psicraft check is necessary to identify the discipline of the psionic aura).
Dead magic areas are also dead psionics areas.
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Psi-like abilities have no verbal, somatic, or material components, nor do they require a focus or have an XP cost (even if the equivalent power has an XP cost). The user activates them mentally. Armor never affects a psi-like ability’s use. A psi-like ability has a manifesting time of 1 standard action unless noted otherwise in the ability description. In all other ways, a psi-like ability functions just like a power. However, a psionic creature does not have to pay a psi-like ability’s power point cost.
結論: 怎樣看都是完全一樣的精神吧... 而且和類法一樣, 類靈是吃靈抗的, 在靈法互通的情況下也吃法抗
專長那個我看過了, 是特例,
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicF...ntipsionicMagic (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm#antipsionicMagic)
The bonus does not apply to spell resistance. This is an exception to the psionics-magic transparency rule.
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对的是特例。很多桥段都为了平衡声明是特例……所以如果觉得过强就引用好了嘛。 :em003
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某确实记得某个版本中拥有PR的生物会有等同数值的SR……不过某不记得是什么时候看的了，而且没准是3E的= =
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某确实记得某个版本中拥有PR的生物会有等同数值的SR……不过某不记得是什么时候看的了，而且没准是3E的= =
根据灵能魔法等效规则，PR不是就等于SR吗……
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恩...我似乎找到了一点依据？
1心灵异能手册在介绍怪物那一章也介绍了类灵能能力，上面特意说明“类灵能能力本质上就是心灵异能（ psionics ）”。
2关于瑟芬人的那句描述原文是“Xephs have an innate resistance to psionics and magic.”意思是瑟芬人天生就对心灵异能（psionics）和魔法有抵抗力，同样都是用的“psionics”。
所以我想瑟芬人对于类灵能能力应该有同样的抵抗力，毕竟按照正常的设定习惯偏偏不能抵抗类灵能很没道理...
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我覺得答案很清楚了, 只不過同樣清楚的是 DM 有最終決定權. :unsure:
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某的意思是，根据印象，那个地方说有SR的生物不一定有PR
但是显然某很可能记错了