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TRPG討論區 => 研討區 => 3版 討論區 => 主题作者是: blacksarena 于 2008-06-26, 周四 16:54:26
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PHB說:
Spellbook
You possess a spellbook, a book full of mystic lore in
which you store your rituals and your daily and utility
spells.
Rituals: Your book contains three 1st-level rituals
of your choice that you have mastered.
At 5th level, and again at 11th, 15th, 21st, and 25th
level, you master two more rituals of your choice and
add them to your spellbook. Any ritual you add must
be your level or lower.
Daily and Utility Spells: Your spellbook also
holds your daily and utility spells. You begin knowing
two daily spells, one of which you can use on any given
day. Each time you gain a level that lets you select a
daily spell or a utility spell, choose two different daily
spells or utility spells of that level to add to your book.
After an extended rest, you can prepare a number of
daily and utility spells according to what you can cast
per day for your level. You can’t prepare the same spell
twice.
If you replace a spell because of gaining a level or
through retraining, the previous spell vanishes from
your spellbook and is replaced by the new spell.
問題:
1.你可以準備任何總數不超過每日數量的daily/utility
power, 但同一power不能重複準備
2.或者是你只能每級挑一個出來準備 (當然還是不
能超過每日總數同一power不能重複準備)
ex:
某A的spell know如下
Lv X 的daily: X1 和 X2
Lv Y 的daily: Y1 和 Y2
Lv Z 的daily: Z1 和 Z2
設某A每天可準備3個daily power
則
狀況1為X1+X2+Y1 or X1+Y1+Y2 or X2+Z1+Z2 或其他總
合為3個的組合
狀況2為X1+Y1+Z1 or X2+Y1+Z1 或其他每級各選一個的
組合
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到底是那一種...
(還沒考慮retrain和replace...)
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Can a 5th level wizard memorize two 5th level daily spells instead of a 1st and a 5th level daily spell?
At the end of each long rest, a wizard prepares one 1st-level Daily spell chosen from the list of 1st level daily spells in her spellbook. If she were at least 2nd level, she would also prepare one 2nd-level utility spell chosen from the list of 2nd-level utility spells in her spellbook. At 5th level she would also prepare one 5th-level daily spell from her list of 5th-level daily spells in her spellbook. She would repeat this process for every level that she has access to wizard daily or utility spells. She could not, as a 5th-level wizard, prepare a second 5th-level daily spell in place of a daily spell of a different level.
http://wizards.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wizard...li=&p_topview=1 (http://wizards.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wizards.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1396&p_created=1212604387&p_sid=NNxt9G5j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=1387&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjY3LDI2NyZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9cGxheWVyJ3M*&p_li=&p_topview=1)
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你只能每级挑一个准备
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每級挑一個... 嗯
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那如果有人用retrain/replace後法術都分部在某1個 (或分部在
某X, X < 每日法數數目) 級內, 那......
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我承認有某幾級的法術對我來說特別有吸引力, 當然也有某些
級挑不出一個喜歡的......
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7. How does retraining and multiclassing work with the spellbook?
If you retrain a daily or utility power you only retrain one of your two choices for that level, if you choose a lower level power while retraining it still occupies the same level. If you swap a power with a power from a different class through multiclassing or replace a power because of gaining levels you replace both spell choices with the new power.
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非常感謝, 不過看來得重寫spellbook了 :em023
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7. How does retraining and multiclassing work with the spellbook?
If you retrain a daily or utility power you only retrain one of your two choices for that level, if you choose a lower level power while retraining it still occupies the same level. If you swap a power with a power from a different class through multiclassing or replace a power because of gaining levels you replace both spell choices with the new power.
"...replace a power because of gaining levels you replace both spell choices with the new power."
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這意味著?
replace換的時候是整組(即同時抄進去的那兩個法術)一起換(換成兩
個新的法術)?
or
一個新的法術換掉舊的一組法術?
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整组整组换
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重练是1换1。
兼职是2换1。
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法師的額外法術與正常的法術是一組。專長賦予的額外法術也一樣。
即是說，如果你是五級，有擴充法術書，你可以抄六個法術 (3x5, 3x1), 每天背兩個 (5, 1)
假如你兼職，用一級法術換一級別職威能，那麼你的書只餘下三個五級（或以下），而且每天只能挑一個背。
維持著兼職升九級，你可以抄六個法術背兩個（3x9, 3x5）。你也可以重訓練把兼職威能換成五級，取回一級法師法術，那麼你依然是抄六個（3x9, 3x1）背兩個 (9,1)
FAQ 說重訓練只能換一個法術，但個人認為可以一組換比較公平，不然重訓練時法師會比其他職業痛苦。
你可以背比較低級的威能，前提是不能重覆準備。全職九級法師可以準備三個一級的每天威能，只要不重覆。
只為兼職換能力要一定等級，所以只是假設。
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然则重练换一组的话是不是比较浪费呢？
比如你准备把5级技能重练掉变成1级的，那么另外学的一个5级技能也要陪上么？
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當然不是強迫你換一組... 何況你不需要一組全部同級.
RAW 的情況是, 你可以替換一組新的高級法術, 然後重訓練任意一項換成同級或低級的.
也因此法師的重訓練可能會比其他職業吃緊很多.
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嗯……这我当然承认，不过某种意义上来说，法师对重练的依赖也少些。白白多出那么多威能位了，当然要为后期做点打算
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實話實說, 4e 沒有留空法術位冒險中途背的機制, 加上你能挑的限每天威能和近乎等同每天的輔助威能, 你的選擇通常是攞著看的, 擴充法術書的三倍法術沒我想像的那麼實用.
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突然又想到一個問題...
舉例來說:
某法師有25級Daily Attack Power A25和B25
在29級 (28升29級) 時決定replace成A29和B29
那他可以馬上把B29 retrain成B25嗎?
還是要下次升級 (29升30級) 時才能retrain
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Each time you gain a level that lets you select a
daily spell or a utility spell, choose two different daily
spells or utility spells of that level to add to your book.
应该可以同时换A和B不用等到30吧
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可以立刻重練 B29 成 B25. 如果你還有 C25 升級成 C29 (擴展法術書), 那麼你己經重練過, 要等下一級. 根據字面規則, 你不能只升 A25 -> A29 而不升 B25/C25.